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Rev. Marc van Bulck is a minister in the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.). Marc sits down with people he thinks are interesting, picks their brains about the creative process, learns about how artistic expression informs our values. He also regularly embarrasses himself on-air.
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Episodes
Episodes



Wednesday Jun 04, 2025
Ep. 10 - Jon "Bermuda" Schwartz
Wednesday Jun 04, 2025
Wednesday Jun 04, 2025
Jon "Bermuda" Schwartz is the drummer for "Weird Al" Yankovic. This summer he'll be hitting the road with Weird Al on the "Bigger and Weirder" Tour. Jon offers us a sneak preview of what fans can expect from the show and shares stories and memories from his legendary 40+ year career in music and comedy.
His latest book, "Lights, Camera, Accordion!: Eye-Popping Photographs of 'Weird Al' Yankovic, 1981-2006," is a stunning 256-page visual retrospective featuring over 300 never-before-seen color photographs. Jon shares stories behind some of the rarest images that even Al's most diehard fans have never seen and pays tribute to two of his favorite drummers, Ringo Starr and Hal Blaine.



Friday May 02, 2025
Ep. 9 - Mary Reber
Friday May 02, 2025
Friday May 02, 2025
Mary Reber appears in the third season of Twin Peaks, directed by David Lynch and executive produced by Lynch and Mark Frost. In real life, Mary owns the house that served as the filming location for Laura Palmer’s home. She joins me in conversation to share her memories of working with David Lynch and behind-the-scenes stories behind some of Season 3’s most shocking moments. Mary also offers tours of the Palmer House and reflects on how connecting with the Twin Peaks fan community has touched her life in deeply personal ways.



Thursday Apr 24, 2025
Ep. 8 - Samantha Mandeles
Thursday Apr 24, 2025
Thursday Apr 24, 2025
Do Christians and Jews think differently about God? In what ways are our communities similar? In what ways are they unique? Samantha Mandeles is a passionate photographer, and her images are the subject of an exhibition titled "The Abayudaya: Portrait of an African Jewish Community," which captures the daily lives and spiritual vibrancy of a Jewish community in Namutumba, Uganda. She has contributed to Newsweek, the Jewish News Syndicate, and other publications and appeared in the documentary, "The J Street Challenge."
Her professional work spans counterterrorism research, journalism, and documentary photography. In 2025, Sam joins the Board of Directors at the Interfaith Center at Miami University. We reflect on how her background shapes her interfaith perspective, and she shares powerful stories behind her images, offering lessons that the global Jewish community can teach those of us committed to interfaith work.



Wednesday Mar 19, 2025
Ep. 7 - Rodger Nishioka
Wednesday Mar 19, 2025
Wednesday Mar 19, 2025
The Rev. Dr. Rodger Nishioka serves as the senior pastor and head of staff at Village Presbyterian Church in Prairie Village, Kansas. Dr. Nishioka is one of the most sought-after preachers and teachers in the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.). He is widely considered to be one of the preeminent experts in youth and adolescent ministry in the denomination. Dr. Nishioka joins me in conversation to discuss the ever-changing landscape of youth and young adult ministry and offers his reflections on Christian education in a post-pandemic, Gen-Alpha world.



Wednesday Oct 30, 2024
Ep. 6 - Ed McLeod
Wednesday Oct 30, 2024
Wednesday Oct 30, 2024
Rev. Dr. Ed McLeod joins me in conversation. Recently retired, Dr. McLeod has served as the pastor at churches in Greer, South Carolina, Sumter, South Carolina and most recently Raleigh, North Carolina. A graduate of Union Presbyterian Seminary and the College of William & Mary, he has served on the Board of Trustees of both Union Presbyterian Seminary and William Peace University along with numerous presbytery committees. He was also my pastor growing up in Sumter, South Carolina. Ed and I discuss ministry, the call and a lifetime of lessons in ministry he’s learned along the way.



Monday Sep 30, 2024
Ep. 5 - Eva Jade Landon
Monday Sep 30, 2024
Monday Sep 30, 2024
Eva Jade Landon is a multi-award winning recording artist and “Best Female Pop Artist” and "Musician of the Year" nominee by the Indie Music Channel Awards and RAW Awards. She has collaborated with Grammy-nominated producer Dan Mathews and was called “the mid Atlantic’s biggest secret” by the Washington Examiner. Her new album, "Evolved," drops on October 1st.
In addition to being a recording artist, Eva identifies as a Zen Buddhist and a queer woman who is committed to the work of local interfaith dialogue. She serves as a local interfaith program director here in southwest Ohio.
Eva discusses how language and representation matter in the realm of interfaith conversations with young people, how she has navigated the complexities of queer representation in her own career in the music industry, how she thinks pop music can be effective as a form of advocacy for social justice and talks about performing at the home of magician Penn Jillette!



Thursday Aug 22, 2024
Ep. 4 - Doc Eason
Thursday Aug 22, 2024
Thursday Aug 22, 2024
Doc Eason is one of the premiere close-up magicians in the country. For thirty years, he was the resident magician at the legendary Tower Comedy Magic Bar in Snowmass, Colorado owned by the world famous recording artist, John Denver. He is a multi-award winning performer at the Magic Castle in Hollywood, including Close Up Magician of the Year (which he has won twice), Lecturer of the Year (which he has also won twice) and WC Fields Magic Bartender of the Year.
Doc has a new book out called “Cocktails and Doc Tales” available now from Rocky Mountain Magic. He joins me to share stories, wisdom and insights from nearly forty years of performing for audiences in intimate settings night after night.



Friday Jul 26, 2024
Ep. 3 - Stevi Incremona Dybas
Friday Jul 26, 2024
Friday Jul 26, 2024
Stevi Incremona narrated the audiobook for "Gray Man." She is a professional actress and rock singer based out of New York. Stevi makes a living creating demos for Broadway musicals while they're in active development. This episode, we discuss the perils of maintaining your authenticity in an industry that thrives on self-promotion and how her new live touring show is a tribute to Amy Winehouse.